BANS , Adjusting For Success or Do Nothing And Fail
Written by: Don Miller
Posted on June 19, 2008
Filed Under Starting your Online Business, bans
As most of you can tell my becoming a full time internet marketer has affected my posting on this site. It is an issue I hope to overcome soon. I currently work… 12-15 hours a day, sometimes more. Before we go much further along here, let me assure you I have never enjoyed something so much, so fast, so as for the hours , its all good. I am adjusting to my new work at home career and I am adjusting my BANS site as needed.
My day usually starts with a check to make sure my 100 + sites are live and doing what they are supposed to do. I spend a few hours commenting and getting links for those sites. Let me say this, there is nothing fun about getting links, at least that I can find, so I fire up iTunes and go get them. I usually write 10-12 posts a day for my various niche blogs and work a few trends blogs. I am entered in the Blogger Unleashed Contest, and have not had time to post a single article in 2 weeks. Vic has my apologies, but I need to get paid and building sites is how that is going to happen. It already has.
Somewhere during my day , usually around mid-day, I check out Freshdrop.net for domains. There is almost always a domain or 3 for me to research and purchase. Usually 7 or 8 days later I take ownership and build a site, so I like to keep that flow going.
I’ve added a few Blogspot Blogs to my network and work those as well. I have some dinner around the early evening and now enjoy the time I have to watch my beloved Tampa Bay Rays play when they are on TV. After the game, I’m back at the desk to build a site or two and get some more links. As of late, Justin from Blogging Zombie chat away on Skype while we work, as he has decided to make internet marketing a full time occupation as well. While we are at it, if you haven’t checked out his blog lately, and your are interested on information on how to make money blogging, you need to go there. Justin is a compulsive thinker as I am, and his posts are loaded with tips to make your making money online easier. He has bent over backwards to help me and he will do the same for you.
I work until 4 or 5 AM , get some sleep and get back after it the next morning
I still buy new domains, although my preference remains existing domains, but have stayed away from .dot infos’s for now, until we all can figure out what is going to happen there. I usually can get a new dot com indexed in less than 24 hours and I want to tell you how I do it. Disclaimer time. This may not work for you and others have different techniques for this ,so check them out as well. I set the site up, in this case a BANS site and then work BMD (Bookmarking Demon). I do not go crazy with this. I think sometimes people forget how powerful a tool BMD can be. I get 25 to 30 links and stop. I try to add links slowly. The last 4 new domains have indexed in less than 24 hours doing it this way. I don’t touch the sites for another week, but then add a few more BMD runs and do my traditional link building. Avoiding the sandbox using this technique has worked in all but one occasion. That site had more traffic than this blog does for 2-3 weeks and it was sent to the beach. It came back 3 weeks later. More to come on that later in this post
I got a call today from a friend who learned of building sites from me and my blog. His concern was that after 3 weeks he had lost his position in the SERPS. I explained to him that Google loves fresh content, and a newly built Bans site does just that for Google. It happens to all of us. I generally build my sites in stages. Let me explain. When a site starts to fall we can do nothing, or we can prop it back up. Get more links is obvious. I then add a load of content to the area at the bottom of the page. With the new links that usually does the trick. If push comes to shove, I will add another category and load it up with content and, you guessed it, get more links. The point is BANS sites evolve over time and you need to adjust. Sitting back and doing nothing will not only frustrate you, it will run you right out of this business. Your key search terms, if they are good ones, should produce buyers not browsers. Don’t shy away form long tail search terms, those are generally buy search terms and that’s what you’re after. So here is list of thing to help you down the road to making money , when Google does what Google does. Lets assume your BANS site is up and you are getting traffic.
Google determines they like your site, but they don’t love you like they once did and your traffic has slowed to nothing.
Option # 1 Do nothing except pout and whine! Don’t laugh that is what most people do.
Option # 2 Be honest with yourself, you haven’t done anything with this site. It s time to get busy .Add a post to the bottom content are, just like you are writing a blog post, of course generously sprinkled with your keywords and keyword phrases. Do this on one of your categories. Now go get links for this page. Do BMD runs, go comment on do follow blogs and Comment Luv Plug-in. Check out Squidoo pages and add a link or 20 where you can. Submit to Article Directories. Soon you get your traffic back and hopefully you have learned a lesson. Wash, rinse and repeat with the other pages.
You simply must adjust to Google , they sure aren’t going to adjust to you.
Your site has been sent to the beach, the Sandbox
One of the very first sites I put up , was drawing more unique visitors each day than this blog does. I hit upon some very good search terms and for a very trendy , popular product .It was my biggest producer for 2 ½ weeks As quickly as it came it disappeared from the SERPS. Oh I’m sure it was there, somewhere on page 137. Here is what I did.
Option # 1 I confess I pouted and whined , for about a day , then I got busy.
Option # 2 I was patient and I waited . I waited for more links to be counted. It would be nice if Google counted your links as soon as you put them up, but they don’t. Now lets put yourself in Google’s shoes. Here is a brand new site , with a brand new domain and we just counted 378 links in the past 4 days. Wow, Mr. Google says, that is a bunch , I wonder what is going on. Maybe it’s a spam site, lets just set it aside until we decide. Fair enough, I would probably do the same thing if I was Mr. Google. Now here is where you have to be ultra patient. I did not add links as I knew there was more to be counted. I added some content to individual pages. That lets them know the site is still active. I did this over several days, remember, just like it was a blog. 3 weeks later while checking my traffic on my other sites, I noticed my sand boxed site was getting traffic. I checked and sure enough there it was back on page 1 for my terms. This is another reason I add sites daily. You never know when this may happen, and if you are counting on one site to buy groceries, you’re going to get hungry. I hope this helps some of you. If you have questions, ask away. I’ll be sure to answer quickly.
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Well this post started out as shorty, but turned into 1400 words, I explain some things you must adjust to with building BANS sites. These things have worked for me and Im sure they will work for you. Or you can do nothing . Read the title for the res…
Don,
It’s great to hear you are keeping busy with your site building. I know in my heart you will be very successful with these and I’m excited for you.
You are a man of action and this always pays off in the end. Keep on rocking!
Don,
This was a great post. I am following your advice. I had my site sandboxed and I just keep adding new content and new sites.
Hi Don,
This is what my adjustment has been. I’ve stopped doing BANS sites at this point and instead using blogs, both WordPress and Blogger, for eBay affiliate. Google just seems to like blogs a lot better than BANS. As Vic says, it is what it is. Plus, with a blog, I can do posts that go after trends traffic that’s product based. When this comes together right it can results in 100’s of click thrus and mo’ money.
Don’t get me wrong, I think BANS is a good program. However, I’ve found combining blogs with eBay affiliate to be much more profitable.
Don,
Great attitude. I must get a dozen emails a day from people who have lost their serp ranking and are looking for a quick fix. Your post said it all - quit pouting, add content and be patient. You are dead on and I wish everyone had your outlook.
Well said.
Don, this is great advice. All businesses face challenges and need to adapt to succeed. BANS sites and ebay affiliate marketing is no different.
I have heard several people state that blogs are more effective with Google and I tend to agree. I am going to start focusing more of my efforts on blog. I like Frank’s methods and I know he knows his stuff. If it works for him, it will work for the rest of us.
I too like BANS and have been having decent success with my BANS sites, but I also have a bunch of .info domains that I need to decide what to do with. I will probably not put BANS on them and instead, make them nich blogs with ebay.
@ Monika, Welcome Back Gal,
@ Fred , the key is determine the issue and adjust, its working for me
@ Frank C , I am working a few trends sites as well, in fact I was right underneath you yesterday on one, I may have to try a blog with eBay very soon , as Steve said I have about 25 .infos taking up space with nothing in sight for them to get better.
@ Grizz , The phone call I got yesterday actually motivated me to write this post, I wish we all could put up sites and just go to the beach everyday, but it just doesn’t work that way does it
Steve , I mentioned on an earlier post , many people are using blogs for BANS, and like I said if the .infos are going to stay dead with BANS we all will have to adjust
Great post Don.
I’m actually glad I didn’t buy a lot of .info domains. I have .info’s that are still successful though. The key imo is to just step up the quality. On my BANS domains I added a few content pages and reduced the “spam feel” that some of them had. I put more work into their visual appeal. Making the sites have other content might reduce conversions a little, but it can’t convert at all if it doesn’t rank. I think many BANS are nothing but thin affiliate sites, which Google hates. Best approach is to give Google what they love: content + links. All legit sites will rank eventually, it just takes time and work.
@ Justin, I would say we are on the same page , Ive proven to myself on my sites
Don, nice post. WOW you are really busy hitting this hard. Thanks for all the tips here not only on Bans but on all my blogs. Thanks again!
Denise , thanks for stopping in, don’t be a stranger, let me know if I can be a help to you
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There are times that a blog with an RSS feed tuned to ebay will probably be able to outperform BANS. The only problem is, these will take a lot more time to set up. They are a lot more customizable and less limited though.
Glad to hear you are enjoying the challenges of work!
Actually Tim I have about 30 % of my Bans Sites on blogs and it works well, thanks for stopping in and I hope to see you again, now its back to work!
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